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Clinical Conversation
From Avoidance to Permission: Helping Clients Discuss Challenging Topics
Guest: Lambers Fisher, MS, LMFT, MDiv
On-Demand:Available now in the TTI member library. This conversation was recorded on July 1st, 2026.
Right when the work gets real..your client pulls back. Now what? Join us for a clinically honest, shame free Clinical Conversation with marriage and family therapist, author, and national speaker Lambers Fisher as we look at how to move clients from avoidance into real permission around the topics they are afraid to name.
You will leave with practical language and frameworks you can bring into EMDR therapist training groups, trauma therapist training spaces, supervision hours, and everyday work with diverse clients.
In this conversation, we will explore:
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How fear, shame, and cultural messages keep clients silent about what hurts most, even in a trusted therapy relationship
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Ways avoidance shows up in EMDR and trauma work, including when clients say they are “fine” or stay in the safest parts of their story
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Specific questions and phrases that invite permission rather than pressure, so clients feel safer naming hard topics
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What to do in the moment when a client shuts down, changes the subject, or tests whether you can handle what they want to say
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How your own identities, beliefs, and training background shape which topics feel “safe” or “off limits” in the room
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How skills from EMDR therapist training, trauma therapist training, and EMDR consultant certification can support deeper, more honest conversations when sessions get charged
Meet Your Guest
About Your Guest
Lambers Fisher
MS, LMFT, MDiv
Lambers Fisher, MS, LMFT, MDiv, is a licensed marriage and family therapist, clinical supervisor, adjunct instructor, author, and national speaker on multicultural awareness and diversity. For more than 20 years, he has counseled individuals, couples, and families from a variety of cultural backgrounds in private practice, non profit, and ministry environments.
He brings a positive, shame free, empowering, relationship focused approach to helping professionals increase their cultural self awareness, reduce the frequency of unintentional cultural offenses, and repair relationships when harm has occurred. His work is grounded in the belief that clinicians can grow without being shamed and that real change happens through honest, practical conversations.
Through his trainings, podcast, and writing, Lambers has helped thousands of therapists feel more confident navigating challenging topics related to race, culture, faith, and identity. His guidance is especially valuable for clinicians who are deepening their trauma therapist training, building EMDR skills, or moving toward EMDR consultant certification and want to make sure those interventions are safe and effective for every client they serve.
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He brings a positive, shame free, empowering, relationship focused approach to helping professionals increase their cultural self awareness, reduce the frequency of unintentional cultural offenses, and repair relationships when harm has occurred. His work is grounded in the belief that clinicians can grow without being shamed and that real change happens through honest, practical conversations.
Through his trainings, podcast, and writing, Lambers has helped thousands of therapists feel more confident navigating challenging topics related to race, culture, faith, and identity. His guidance is especially valuable for clinicians who are deepening their trauma therapist training, building EMDR skills, or moving toward EMDR consultant certification and want to make sure those interventions are safe and effective for every client they serve.
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